Several goldmines on the Irish Genealogy front:
A cousin messaged me via Facebook and gave me information that our Gt Gt Grandmother Catherine/Kate Flaherty was really a Faherty -- and was from Camp Street in Oughterard. All this is new information, and corroborated by another cousin who said our Gt Aunt always said she was from Camp Street Oughterard. I've posted a query to the Oughterard Heritage webpage asking for any info.
This cousin is also related to me doubly, through the Toole's and the Walsh's of Muckanaghkillew!
Another message via Ancestry from a Hernon who lives in Lettercalla -- she was asking about any connection I might know between my Walsh family and her family of Hernon's and Burkes. Her Gt Gt Grandmother Mary Burke was a baptismal sponsor for a couple of Paidin Walsh's children, and Thady Walsh (his brother) served as baptismal sponsor for one of Mary's nephews (Tom, son of Robert Burke). The Burkes lived near the Walsh's -- and supposedly came from Carna, but were evicted, went to Inis Bearachin, then settled in Lettercalla.
So possibly my Maggie, wife of Michael and mother of Paidin, Thady, Michil, Mary, Nuala, et al, was a Burke???? She would be a generation above Mary Burke, so possibly an Aunt of hers -- which would make Mary a 1st cousin of Paidin and Thady et al???
She also said that the photo I had of the old Walsh cabin in Lettercalla was really a Reaney house. She was going to take a photo of the Walsh house. She said the Walsh and Folan families still don't like each other much, to this day!
And finally, a Connolly DNA hit at 2-4th cousins -- possibly via a brother of Podgeen -- still sorting that out, as the message came through FamilytreeDNA.
When it rains it pours....
Friday, November 18, 2016
Henry Pearce and sons
A recent email from the British Newspaper Archive said they'd posted a newspaper called the Cornwall & Devon Post -- so I had a look through with my usual searches of Hurrell and Pearce. Lo and behold, I found an article all about my Pearce family of Callington/St. Ive!!!
The article refers to a Henry Pearce, son of Henry Pearce. In reality this is John Carew Pearce. He is one of the 4 sons of Henry Perace -- the others being Thomas Pearce (of Landrake), Samuel Pearce (of New Zealand), and Nathaniel Hurrell Pearce (my Gt Grandfather - of Torquay).
Initially I couldn't figure out if this was my family -- as the name Henry Pearce and Army Pensioner didn't seem to fit. But the other sons and father definitely fit with what I knew. So, I set out to do some searching on John Carew Pearce (aka Henry).
Turns out I had a missing 1881 census for him -- he was in St Ive in 1871 and 1891, but where was he inbetween? I had a quick look at Findmypast.com, and searched the British Army records, as he was listed as a pensioner. This was most unusual, since most men in the area joined the Royal Navy in Plymouth, if they were going into the military.
Sure enough, there was a John Pearce, born 1853, joining in Burley!! A huge file for him, with all the corroborating details -- born in St. Ive, Father Henry Pearce of Callington, etc. Turns out he had been part of the Royal Marines Artillery Militia initially, and then joined the regular Army 2 years later. Lots of correspondence regarding this....
From his service record, he served a total of 21 years, with 3 years in India, and some Reserve time in Guernsey (where he must have met his wife), and was discharged in Belfast, due to being medically unfit as he was suffering from Brights Disease.
His discharge said his intended place of residence was St Ive, so he returned home just before the 1891 Census. This article is in 1892, and essentially the Local Authority wanted him to contribute more towards the maintenance of his Father, but he argued the burden should be shared between the 4 sons. Henry Pearce died later that year, so the case was probably dropped.
Fascinating to see an article from 1892 talking directly about my Pearce family, and leading me to discover a whole British Army career that I knew nothing about!
Saturday, November 5, 2016
Charles Montague Pearce
For many years I've been searching for the children of my Great Uncle, Albert Edward "Fred" Pearce. My only leads were that he married an Edith Harrison near Exeter and had 2 sons. I found one son, Charles M, born in 1913 in Exeter area, but nothing further.
I know that "Fred" (and I assume his wife) were living in Clapham, London in 1915 - based on a business card he put into his Sister's Autograph Book, on her departure for the USA. He was a commercial artist and used the name Fred Mont. Pearce
I had assumed that this might have been Mortimer, as a tribute to his Sister's husband who essentially raised him --- but now the name Montague appears to be the middle name he was using. I deduced this from the Civil Registration for his son's death. In looking for the death of Charles M Pearce, born 1913 -- I found a death for Charles Montague Pearce, born in the correct quarter of 1913, and dying in Islington (London) in 1972.
Now, where did the name Montague come from??
I've also yet to find Alfred Edward "Fred" in the 1939 Register, or the death of his wife Edith (I think she died relatively young, as I know Fred had a "common law wife" named Maisie later in life). And where did Alfred Edward "Fred" die? Was he in Islington near his son? What was the other son's name (brother of Charles Montague Pearce)? Was that son born in London?
I've ordered the death certificate for Charles Montague Pearce -- hoping there will be an informant and a better address than just Islington Reg District.
More to follow.....
UPDATE: He died in Islington on 14 Aug 1972. His residence was 27 Hamilton Park, Islington, and he was listed as a Commercial Artist
I know that "Fred" (and I assume his wife) were living in Clapham, London in 1915 - based on a business card he put into his Sister's Autograph Book, on her departure for the USA. He was a commercial artist and used the name Fred Mont. Pearce
I had assumed that this might have been Mortimer, as a tribute to his Sister's husband who essentially raised him --- but now the name Montague appears to be the middle name he was using. I deduced this from the Civil Registration for his son's death. In looking for the death of Charles M Pearce, born 1913 -- I found a death for Charles Montague Pearce, born in the correct quarter of 1913, and dying in Islington (London) in 1972.
Now, where did the name Montague come from??
I've also yet to find Alfred Edward "Fred" in the 1939 Register, or the death of his wife Edith (I think she died relatively young, as I know Fred had a "common law wife" named Maisie later in life). And where did Alfred Edward "Fred" die? Was he in Islington near his son? What was the other son's name (brother of Charles Montague Pearce)? Was that son born in London?
I've ordered the death certificate for Charles Montague Pearce -- hoping there will be an informant and a better address than just Islington Reg District.
More to follow.....
UPDATE: He died in Islington on 14 Aug 1972. His residence was 27 Hamilton Park, Islington, and he was listed as a Commercial Artist
Thursday, September 8, 2016
New Irish Civil Registration Records -- what a goldmine!
Wow! What a red letter day in the world of Irish Genealogy! Free Civil Registration Records online! OMG, how long have we needed these! Now you can finally see the details, which help you determine if it's your ancestor!
The village names, ages, etc -- all those details are so key in finding the correct Mary Walsh or Patrick Connolly. All my people have such common names, that it's virtually impossible without the village names, or parents names, to pinpoint the right person.
I started with my Walsh family -- and began with death certs. Going through my direct line, and finding my Gt Grandmother's death in 1923, her husband's death in 1916.
Most interestingly I found their daughter Mary Walsh - my Grandmother's sister. We had always been told she was sickly (probably with TB) and had died young. I knew she was still alive in 1911, but lo and behold she died in 1934 and lived to the age of 59!! So much for that family story!!
I found my Grandmother's other sister Margaret, and while I knew her death date, I didn't know why she died relatively young at age 48 in 1931 -- turns out she got septicemia from a cut suffered on the farm -- and died in Hospital over the Christmas holidays. Very sad! This detail supplied by my cousin after I sent her the copy of the certificate.
Lots of early dates are not producing images yet, so hope that issue will be sorted out tomorrow when the records truly go live.
So excited to keep making discoveries and correcting some errors (I had some assumed death dates which proved to be wrong).
Look forward to diving into the birth and marriage records tomorrow!
UPDATE: As of Sept 12, 2016 --- I've added 63 new records to my Family Tree!!! Primarily deaths, and some marriages! Fantastic discoveries continue....
The village names, ages, etc -- all those details are so key in finding the correct Mary Walsh or Patrick Connolly. All my people have such common names, that it's virtually impossible without the village names, or parents names, to pinpoint the right person.
I started with my Walsh family -- and began with death certs. Going through my direct line, and finding my Gt Grandmother's death in 1923, her husband's death in 1916.
Most interestingly I found their daughter Mary Walsh - my Grandmother's sister. We had always been told she was sickly (probably with TB) and had died young. I knew she was still alive in 1911, but lo and behold she died in 1934 and lived to the age of 59!! So much for that family story!!
I found my Grandmother's other sister Margaret, and while I knew her death date, I didn't know why she died relatively young at age 48 in 1931 -- turns out she got septicemia from a cut suffered on the farm -- and died in Hospital over the Christmas holidays. Very sad! This detail supplied by my cousin after I sent her the copy of the certificate.
Lots of early dates are not producing images yet, so hope that issue will be sorted out tomorrow when the records truly go live.
So excited to keep making discoveries and correcting some errors (I had some assumed death dates which proved to be wrong).
Look forward to diving into the birth and marriage records tomorrow!
UPDATE: As of Sept 12, 2016 --- I've added 63 new records to my Family Tree!!! Primarily deaths, and some marriages! Fantastic discoveries continue....
Monday, August 8, 2016
Hurrell breakthrough.....
For many years, one of my cousins has holidayed in a small Devon village called Hope Cove. It is beautiful, with thatched cottages and a lovely beach. He has always told me that in the Pub there are some lovely old photos of the local fisherman and some are named HURRELL. This cousin relates on a completely different line, but knows that HURRELL is one of my direct ancestral lines.
I've never been able to connect any of my South Devon Hurrell's to the village of Hope Cove, and so never thought much more about it.
Today in some random searching, I found a hitherto unknown child, Thomas Hurrell, b 1847 to one of my 1st cousins 4x removed, William Henry Hurrell. Thomas only appears in the 1851 Census with the family, and then by 1861 is a 13 year old servant living elsewhere. He disappears in 1871, and reappears in 1881, as a married fisherman in Hope Cove. He lists his birthplace as Marlborough, when I have it as West Alvington (but they are next door to each other, so understandable).
I then found his marriage certificate at Marlborough, which confirms his Father was William Hurrell, and that he was residing at Hope Cove as a fisherman.
He and his wife go on to have 6 sons, 3 of whom join the Royal Navy, and another son dies in World War One. The eldest son Peter Bailey Hurrell, appears to have stayed in Hope Cove and went on to have a large family.
This is Peter Bailey Hurrell, in 1926, when he was a member of a lifeboat crew that went to the aid of a steamer off Hope Cove.
I've never been able to connect any of my South Devon Hurrell's to the village of Hope Cove, and so never thought much more about it.
Today in some random searching, I found a hitherto unknown child, Thomas Hurrell, b 1847 to one of my 1st cousins 4x removed, William Henry Hurrell. Thomas only appears in the 1851 Census with the family, and then by 1861 is a 13 year old servant living elsewhere. He disappears in 1871, and reappears in 1881, as a married fisherman in Hope Cove. He lists his birthplace as Marlborough, when I have it as West Alvington (but they are next door to each other, so understandable).
I then found his marriage certificate at Marlborough, which confirms his Father was William Hurrell, and that he was residing at Hope Cove as a fisherman.
He and his wife go on to have 6 sons, 3 of whom join the Royal Navy, and another son dies in World War One. The eldest son Peter Bailey Hurrell, appears to have stayed in Hope Cove and went on to have a large family.
This is Peter Bailey Hurrell, in 1926, when he was a member of a lifeboat crew that went to the aid of a steamer off Hope Cove.
Tuesday, June 7, 2016
Walsh's of Ogool
In chatting with a new Walsh cousin in Sydney, Australia - we got on to the branch of Walsh's that seem to originate from Ogool and Finnaun north of Spiddal and west of Moycullen. I am not sure I'm blood related to them (yet) -- as my Sarah Walsh marries into this family, but it seems plausible that it's another case of Walsh's marrying Walsh's to keep it "all in the family".
To confuse matters there are two Uggool's. One in Killanin Pairsh and one in Moycullen Parish.
The David Walsh that Sarah marries, is from Uggool, and from his marriage record his Father is John Walsh. He is from the Killanin Uggool -- which borders Finnaun and Letterfir.
In the Moycullen Uggool - In the Griffith's valuation there is a Joseph and Thomas Walsh who are listed as tenants. In Tithe Applotment Books there is a James Walsh in Ogool -- could he be a brother of John? I also found a burial in Moycullen in 1799 for James Walsh of Ogool.
In the Killanin Uggol - There is no Tithe Applotment Book, but in the Griffith's Valuation there is a Mary Walsh (probably a widow, and possibly David's Grandmother?). In the 1901 Census there is a 91 year old John Walsh still living, which is likely David's father. David and Sarah are in Finnaun in 1901, and he dies before 1911, with Sarah still in Finnaun for the 1911 Census.
More research needed, but need to concentrate on the Walsh's of Finnaun, Letterfir and Uggool (Killanin) -- need to look for burials (probably in Spiddal Cemetery rather than Moycullen).
UPDATE: In July 2018, descendants of this family from Sydney, London, California and Ohio gathered and walked to the ruins of the family home in Ugool.
To confuse matters there are two Uggool's. One in Killanin Pairsh and one in Moycullen Parish.
The David Walsh that Sarah marries, is from Uggool, and from his marriage record his Father is John Walsh. He is from the Killanin Uggool -- which borders Finnaun and Letterfir.
In the Moycullen Uggool - In the Griffith's valuation there is a Joseph and Thomas Walsh who are listed as tenants. In Tithe Applotment Books there is a James Walsh in Ogool -- could he be a brother of John? I also found a burial in Moycullen in 1799 for James Walsh of Ogool.
In the Killanin Uggol - There is no Tithe Applotment Book, but in the Griffith's Valuation there is a Mary Walsh (probably a widow, and possibly David's Grandmother?). In the 1901 Census there is a 91 year old John Walsh still living, which is likely David's father. David and Sarah are in Finnaun in 1901, and he dies before 1911, with Sarah still in Finnaun for the 1911 Census.
More research needed, but need to concentrate on the Walsh's of Finnaun, Letterfir and Uggool (Killanin) -- need to look for burials (probably in Spiddal Cemetery rather than Moycullen).
UPDATE: In July 2018, descendants of this family from Sydney, London, California and Ohio gathered and walked to the ruins of the family home in Ugool.
Thursday, May 5, 2016
Yorkshire Toulson's!!!
A whole boatload of new Yorkshire records were added to Findmypast.com today! So, off I went to find some Toulson's!
Found just a few new folks, primarily female Toulson's who married, and their subsequent children.
Also, was able to fill in actual marriage dates and photographs of the actual certificates for over 50 Toulson's!!! What a bonanza! This in turn gave me some approx birth dates for some of the spouses, and fathers of spouses, to help establish the correct person in earlier census returns (helpful with common names -- once you've got the approx birth year, place of birth and father, it's fairly easy to find the correct John Smith).
Now to move on to the burials and baptisms!! There are 87 Toulson burials and 133 baptisms. Some are too early date wise (most of my Toulson's seem to have migrated from Lincolnshire to Yorkshire in the mid to late 1800's). There are very few that are not part of my family, just a few miners from an area called Worsbrough.
I still suspect that there is a connection between my Toulson's and the Yorkshire Toulson's, somewhere up the tree in the 1600's. At one time, someone suggested that the Civil War may have been when some of the Northern folks ended up down in Lincolnshire/Nottingham, for military purposes. Need to do some historical reading to see if that is a plausible theory.
Found just a few new folks, primarily female Toulson's who married, and their subsequent children.
Also, was able to fill in actual marriage dates and photographs of the actual certificates for over 50 Toulson's!!! What a bonanza! This in turn gave me some approx birth dates for some of the spouses, and fathers of spouses, to help establish the correct person in earlier census returns (helpful with common names -- once you've got the approx birth year, place of birth and father, it's fairly easy to find the correct John Smith).
Now to move on to the burials and baptisms!! There are 87 Toulson burials and 133 baptisms. Some are too early date wise (most of my Toulson's seem to have migrated from Lincolnshire to Yorkshire in the mid to late 1800's). There are very few that are not part of my family, just a few miners from an area called Worsbrough.
I still suspect that there is a connection between my Toulson's and the Yorkshire Toulson's, somewhere up the tree in the 1600's. At one time, someone suggested that the Civil War may have been when some of the Northern folks ended up down in Lincolnshire/Nottingham, for military purposes. Need to do some historical reading to see if that is a plausible theory.
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